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Title: Goldfinger
Post by: MattC5 on 30, September, 2009 - 15:28:21
Hi any one got some good ideas about a modified c5 ???. I would like to make a pimped c5 from an old wreck. Perhaps we could post some designs. I am going to try using Google sketchup.Hope to hear from you all soon.
From Mattc5. ;D
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Retro Andy on 02, October, 2009 - 16:05:25
I would post your idea's and any pictures of your designs so Karl and Electric Dave can see what you have in mind, with a bit of help from them it could be up and running in no time, good luck with your plans.

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 02, October, 2009 - 19:54:32
Thanks Andy, went to Halfords and Maplins with dad today and got lot's of idea's - i think it would be good to have lot's of gadgets and lights but i need to save up !!! I am also still waiting for a cheap c5 to come up.Designs posted soon
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 19, October, 2009 - 18:19:36
Great news I got a Sinclair C5 today for pimping. The body was a bit tatty(cracked) so we got it cheap = £100 but its all complete including a set of unfitted indicators !!!(less relay) i cant wait to get started. but dad says it is my Christmas present.Here is a photo of it before we start:
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC01823.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC01824.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC01825.jpg)
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Karl on 19, October, 2009 - 21:53:19
That is excellent news mate - well done  ;D 8)

..looks like mirrors lurking in the box as well  :)

Keep us posted as the project develops  ;)
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: PLOD11 on 20, October, 2009 - 16:03:51
You will soon have that up and running in no time......

You have a bargain there ...

Its great to see the before pics and then see the end result .......

My first C5 was restored with the intention of selling it, but once i had spent all that time getting it back to a working C5 i couldn't part with it, then the second came along, only bought for spares, and after a few weeks getting all working i deceided to keep that as well.

I will get rid of one someday, thats what i tell the wife anyway !  :o
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 23, October, 2009 - 16:43:02
Powered up today but no luck - POD did not light up and motor did not turn - put pod on 'stan' and all ok with pod - connected motor direct and all ok - Dad thinks problem could be in the control box - he thinks D1 is short circuit - any ideas before we send it off to C5Martin ???
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 23, October, 2009 - 17:11:13
ps no relay click or nought !
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 23, October, 2009 - 18:42:42
pps Fuses ok
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Retro Andy on 24, October, 2009 - 10:27:27
Nice Christmas present mate, my parents would never have bought me one back in the day, but then £399 was a lot of money then, they did buy me several new bikes when I was younger, looking forward to seeing what you make of it, keep up the good work.
P.S dont buy every C5, I'm still looking to get another one day  :)

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Umpa on 24, October, 2009 - 11:55:33
Marks been a little busy and so has not posted much, but I'm dreading him reading this thread lol
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: radiomarty on 30, October, 2009 - 16:21:27
Sorry Umpa - but he has agreed to wash the car - do a paper round - make the dinner- and go to work at the local workhouse !!!!!!!!!! LOL
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Umpa on 31, October, 2009 - 09:33:36
lol, best of luck to you !

Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas update
Post by: MattC5 on 01, November, 2009 - 18:10:34
Latest news - today we disconnected the control box to send of to C5Martin for repair when we noticed a bent over pin on the pod connection and a burnt out resistor. Dad replaced the resistor and a voltage regulator {?} that he said was no good and it all came back to life.Now we know it's all ok we are going to start the strip down.Good times !!!
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas update
Post by: Karl on 02, November, 2009 - 15:33:46
Latest news - today we disconnected the control box to send of to C5Martin for repair when we noticed a bent over pin on the pod connection and a burnt out resistor. Dad replaced the resistor and a voltage regulator {?} that he said was no good and it all came back to life.Now we know it's all ok we are going to start the strip down.Good times !!!

It is nice when you're blessed with a bit of good luck, fingers crossed the restoration goes smoothly  ;)
Title: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 03, November, 2009 - 05:16:17
Hi guy's we are nearly there with the body removal of the 'pimping' C5 just a couple of questions for the veterans :
How does the front light come off  the body shell ? (don't want to damage it )
Can anyone recommend a crank removal tool (if think I recall reading someone had problems with Halfords one not fitting )

Radiomarty
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 03, November, 2009 - 10:25:00
Hi Mart,

You put your hand up by the front wheel, and there a a couple of lugs that you can press.  Take care the plastic might be brittle.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 03, November, 2009 - 10:41:14
My crank removal tool came from my local Evans Cycles, cost about £7

http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=239.0

Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 03, November, 2009 - 11:33:51
Martin,

Will you let me know how you get on with it as I have to strip mine down soon.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 03, November, 2009 - 11:47:01
I reckon the toughest part is handlebar stem removal - the parts can rust and "weld" themselves together.

Once that part is removed, the rest should be fairly straight forward (..could be famous last words  :o)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 03, November, 2009 - 15:05:45
If luck is the same as money - its not going to be easy - lol
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 03, November, 2009 - 15:17:43
Thanks guy's for the info - regards the handle bar removal we used the suggested method i.e I held the the front wheel between my knees then Matt and Carolyn wiggled it side to side and eventually it came off. :) ;D ???
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 03, November, 2009 - 22:53:56
Hi Mart,

You put your hand up by the front wheel, and there a a couple of lugs that you can press.  Take care the plastic might be brittle.
Blimey that was easy almost embarrassing to have asked !! Thanks Umpa
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: techytype on 04, November, 2009 - 20:17:36
Hi Mart,

You put your hand up by the front wheel, and there a a couple of lugs that you can press.  Take care the plastic might be brittle.
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i'm glad this i a family forum as it sort of reminds me the mistake my brother made a few years back with a lady boy   :o  ;D

regs
alan
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: fezza_rs on 05, November, 2009 - 10:33:05
The shell that I've sold you marty was a right ole mare to take off as the handlebar stem is stuck fast and wont move so I had to strip off the handle bars of all their bits and slide them out and prize the body over the stem!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 05, November, 2009 - 18:22:47
Sorry to hear that Fezza - no damage I hope as the shell is going to sprayed up for the 'pimping' project. See you Saturday (between 3-4 hopefully). PS the spare shell we are removing which has a 6inch split to the front will form part of the trailer for young Luke (future project).
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 05, November, 2009 - 18:29:39
Thank you Karl for the prizes - they are perfect for the pimping project
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: techytype on 05, November, 2009 - 23:26:51
Hi Matt,

if your 'pimping' your ride for real, how about some of those 'bling' spinning hub caps?

wonder actually how hard it would be to fit them?.

also wonder what the cost was of those JPS Lotus paint jobs would be  - imho they looked real cool and ideal for showing at Brooklands  8)

regs
alan
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 06, November, 2009 - 21:54:43
The shell is now off Matt's project - photo's of latest stage to follow soon - Stripped it down in his room - Carolyn's going for the frying pan - keeping my head down ............. ;D
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 06, November, 2009 - 21:59:11
The shell is now off Matt's project - photo's of latest stage to follow soon - Stripped it down in his room - Carolyn's going for the frying pan - keeping my head down ............. ;D

..brave man , I remember Angies reaction when I rewired Voodoo in the dining room  :o
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 10, November, 2009 - 16:09:45
Latest photo's of the project  : Hope to get this done for the 25 year party !!!!

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02000.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02001.jpg)
Body shell removal in my room !

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02006.jpg)
Cracked old shell - to be used on future project

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02002.jpg)
Chassis out and Fezza's old body shell in prep for re-build

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02004.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02005.jpg)
Rust removal time !

We will keep you posted on progress
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 10, November, 2009 - 16:26:09
Matt has added photo's of progress to date :

http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=678.msg6247;topicseen#msg6247
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 10, November, 2009 - 22:15:22
Coming along nicely  8)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 11, November, 2009 - 07:24:17
Great stuff, but where do you put the car ? keep up the good work.

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: fezza_rs on 11, November, 2009 - 16:45:10
good to see the body been put to good use instead of being a large garden feature!
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Karl on 12, November, 2009 - 09:34:34
ElectricDave found someone who repaired a shell that had very similar damage.

Don't want to scare you, but something to check when using a chassis from a shell that has frontal damage is that the damage wasn't caused by a crash. Frontal impact can cause bending to the forks and/or chassis near the headstock. I'd hate to see you put in long hours restoring the chassis only to end up disappointed.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: radiomarty on 12, November, 2009 - 12:15:29
Good point Karl - will check it out - must admit I didn't think about how the damage was caused.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 12, November, 2009 - 16:29:10
Underneath naturally Andy !!!!

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02008.jpg)

The cav (ANOTHER PROJECT) looking after the C5's
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: radiomarty on 12, November, 2009 - 16:43:36
good to see the body been put to good use instead of being a large garden feature!

Cheers for the shell Fezza - good to meet you - of for spraying soon.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: c you jimmy 5 on 13, November, 2009 - 23:41:46
How about doing the C5 in the Gulf racing scheme from the 60's i/e Pale Blue with the orange stripe running across it. This is my most favourite racing colour scheme ever.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk20/Cavboy80/Gulf-MKI.jpg)

Timeless
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 14, November, 2009 - 07:28:08
I was'nt expecting that reply, really funny stuff  :D

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Retro Andy on 14, November, 2009 - 07:40:26
This is one of my favourite cars of all time, along with many others.  :D

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: radiomarty on 14, November, 2009 - 18:08:00
Nice idea guy's looks good.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 23, November, 2009 - 20:19:25
Update.... Slow progress as Dad's working shifts (extra one's) but got the chassis spayed up last night so the rebuild can begin
(we used gold inspired by half pint)

Before :
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02005-1.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02052.jpg)

After :
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02050.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02051.jpg)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 23, November, 2009 - 20:24:51
Chassis now sorted and ready to rebuild - Matt as ever the tech kid has posted photo's :
http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=678.msg6427;topicseen#msg6427
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Retro Andy on 25, November, 2009 - 07:34:26
Keep the picture's coming, great to still another C5 reborn again.

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Karl on 25, November, 2009 - 15:59:25
gold suits it  ;)

top job so far mate  8)
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: Umpa on 27, November, 2009 - 18:28:26
Looks very nice Matt, looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 02, December, 2009 - 16:50:21
Update - when spraying up the chassis noticed a small crack in the metal work which was playing on my mind so decided to twist my mates arm to weld it up (Using 2mm plate and a tig):

Crack
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02057.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02054.jpg)

Repair
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02058.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02059.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02060.jpg)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 02, December, 2009 - 21:10:20
He's done a neat job for you Marty, and it will give you piece of mind when its back on the road.

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 03, December, 2009 - 13:38:51
When thats painted up it will never notice, looks like a good strong repair - might even be stronger than new  :)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 03, December, 2009 - 19:44:37
That's a cracking job, you did the right thing.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 08, December, 2009 - 12:42:29
More photo's of latest progress :
Rebuilding
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02066.jpg)
Front wheel cage bearings before and after
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02064.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02065.jpg)
Paint it black
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02067.jpg)

Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 08, December, 2009 - 19:53:17
Those tyres look good  ;)

..seriously, its coming along a treat  8)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 11, December, 2009 - 11:14:20
Electric's back in and tested - slight prob with the pod red connection lead (intermittent connection at the control box) will resolder the connector and clean the pin's - otherwise all good - next job the newly painted shell back on - sorry no pictures of the shell until after the 25Th - Matt's Christmas surprise !!!!
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02070.jpg)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 11, December, 2009 - 11:16:11
Oh yes the saucepan is my Jack !!!!!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 11, December, 2009 - 17:10:54
Oh yes the saucepan is my Jack !!!!!

...improvise, adapt and overcome  ;D

looking good though mate  8)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 12, December, 2009 - 08:46:28
Its coming along really nice Marty, I bet Matt is really loocking forward to see the shell on Christmas morning. I think we know what you might be busy doing after your turkey ? (It would be better the listening to the Queen's speech  :D)

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 12, December, 2009 - 08:50:45
Just a thought I had after looking at the pictures, I reckon it would be possible to alternate the C5 mechanic's ? has anyone ever switched the motor to the right and the brake to the left, the chain bracket is fitted to both side's of the frame, so could it be done, a left hand C5 ?

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 13, December, 2009 - 07:37:47
Just a thought I had after looking at the pictures, I reckon it would be possible to alternate the C5 mechanic's ? has anyone ever switched the motor to the right and the brake to the left, the chain bracket is fitted to both side's of the frame, so could it be done, a left hand C5 ?

Retro Andy.
I've seen one with two motors - one on each side!!!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 17, December, 2009 - 20:29:32
Electric's back in and tested - slight prob with the pod red connection lead (intermittent connection at the control box) will resolder the connector and clean the pin's - otherwise all good - next job the newly painted shell back on - sorry no pictures of the shell until after the 25Th - Matt's Christmas surprise !!!!
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02070.jpg)

How on earth have you got away with building it up in the house? lol
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 19, December, 2009 - 22:35:53
If you're ever short of some pimping ideas, check this puppy out  :o ;D;
http://www.forum-clio.com/index.php/topic,449.0.PHOTOS_Clio_unique_au_monde_com_de_Serge_33.html
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 19, December, 2009 - 23:41:48
lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: MattC5 on 20, December, 2009 - 11:42:34
how about this  ;D
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/pimped-out-mobility-scooter.jpg)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 21, December, 2009 - 12:10:20
I want one of them when I get older

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 25, December, 2009 - 01:02:35
Well the project is all back together and has been named 'Gold finger' it's not quite finished (90%) (time and money !!!!) but is sitting in the front room ready for Matt on Christmas morning :

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02091.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02098.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02101.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02089.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02087.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02092.jpg)
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: c515mph on 25, December, 2009 - 03:13:22
Wow,you've done a great job.
Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 25, December, 2009 - 08:14:26
He should be well chuffed with that mate - top effort  8).

Hope you all have a great Christmas , best wishes to all the family
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: fezza_rs on 25, December, 2009 - 08:26:15
thats the mutts nuts buddy done really well with the shell! Merry christmas!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: techytype on 25, December, 2009 - 11:39:52
another astounding 'pimp my ride',

imo we should have a special gallery to show these machines off in one place, the hard work and attention to detail can only inspire others.

regs
alan
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 27, December, 2009 - 08:52:33
WOW, the frame was a bit of a clue, fantastic finish Marty, I'm sure Matt we be the envy of he's friends. Has the wheels got spikes that will stop anyone trying to overtake on their bmx  ;D or any other 007 gizzmo's ?
Happy christmas Matt, and I hope the snow had gone where you are, so you got out and showed of your present.

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Karl on 27, December, 2009 - 10:06:52
another astounding 'pimp my ride',

imo we should have a special gallery to show these machines off in one place, the hard work and attention to detail can only inspire others.

regs
alan

We do have a gallery section, but most piccies seem to be taken during the meetings/events so all the photo's tend to end up there.

Maybe we could all start a thread in the gallery section showing the c5's each of us own.
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Umpa on 27, December, 2009 - 11:04:41
Words fail me.......

That's awesome !
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 27, December, 2009 - 11:15:01
Thanks everyone for your kind comments on 'Gold Finger' PS Matt has a very large 'C5 grin'  !!!!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 27, December, 2009 - 12:58:35
What are the mirrors off, have you a bike in the garage thats become less road legal and had them donated to gold finger ?

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: radiomarty on 27, December, 2009 - 17:17:41
Hi Andy they are of E-bay - from a seller called 'redtits' !!!!
Title: Re: Strip down
Post by: Retro Andy on 27, December, 2009 - 17:21:31
Redtits ? Paints a nice picture  :D

Retro Andy
Title: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 30, December, 2009 - 16:04:18
£100 E-bay find :
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC01823.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC01824.jpg)

Cracked front shell :
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02006.jpg)

Strip down
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02004.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02002.jpg)

Chassis repair / spray
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02058.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02050.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02070.jpg)

Fezza's shell resprayed and rebuild
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02090.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02098.jpg)
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSC02091.jpg)
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: DRIFTKART on 09, January, 2010 - 12:10:14
it would be Great if you coud if possible but bigger whell arches on , put on a flip plate, angel lights , speakers in the boot wired up to the front we you where your mp3 player would be ,lower it? bigger motor , body kit, vinals, (you can get memory fome fabric and strech it ove the seat), air horns,get a badge for the boot like (c5),a roof (watch out for the weight or iit wont be road legal ,
have fun,  :)
James (Driftkart)
Title: Re: Modified c5 ideas
Post by: MattC5 on 26, January, 2010 - 21:52:23
I like your thinking James  :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 03, June, 2010 - 16:23:37
Latest mod front steel wheel with drum brake waiting to be fitted to Goldfinger - to try and stop young Matt a bit better :

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/DSCF1580.jpg)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: minidaz on 03, June, 2010 - 18:33:37
Looking good. Should certainly be an improvement over the original  :D

Was that the one that was on ebay recently ?

Daz
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 03, June, 2010 - 18:53:01
Yes it was Daz - just painted it up Gold.

Now we need Karl's new gearbox and a few more volts !!
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 03, June, 2010 - 19:31:13
Hi Marty - the topics "strip down" ,"Modified c5 ideas" and "Goldfinger" have been merged as requested  :)

 
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Nitrowing on 30, June, 2010 - 19:19:05
Hi Marty - the topics "strip down" ,"Modified c5 ideas" and "Goldfinger" have been merged as requested  :)
All the photo's have vanished :(
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 01, July, 2010 - 07:26:43
Seem to be showing for us - can someone else check ?
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: plumber on 01, July, 2010 - 08:16:41
hi there....the photos are all there for me...lol.....nice neons....

plumber
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 01, July, 2010 - 08:20:54
Thanks plumber - Hope there back for you Nitrowing - Matt reckons they sometimes vanish for a short while when the photobucket site is being updated.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 01, July, 2010 - 14:40:25
Not sure if this helps, but I do know "web marshall" and other security features can stop the piccies from showing, as photobucket is considered a social networking site and gets blocked. All you see is a small red x instead of the photo's.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 03, July, 2010 - 08:11:35
Managed to finally get to take a look at Matt's Goldfinger yesterday as it had developed some belt slip during the Royal Run.The gearbox was setting on the 'fence' and the belt was a good tension however,the output drive cog had suffered some damage to the teeth on the tips. Luckily I had a spare motor to rob a gearbox off. The new output cog was also the slightly longer length so I am confident this should cure it.The photo shows the damaged one on the right hand side :

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/SINCLAIR%20C2-5/Photo1170.jpg)

Seem's Sinclair were on top of all the issue's shame they didn't get a longer run at it - who knows what improvements they would have come up with.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 03, July, 2010 - 13:03:33
Sinclair did get to grips with quite a few of the concerns raised, like changing the "fingers", boot colour,motor windings etc.

Shame they didn't get chance to release properly modified versions like car manufactures do - mark2/3/4/5 etc

If the c5 had been a success imagine which version we would be on by now, 25years later ?
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: MattC5 on 29, July, 2010 - 21:42:08
We were in Great Yarmouth today and popped in to see the guy we brought the c5 off of that turned into Goldfinger - while chatting he told us that he used to live in Cambridge and knew Sir Clive's parent's and infact brought the c5 from them !.Could this have been one of Sir Clive's own vehicles !!
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: coverman on 30, July, 2010 - 09:35:21
Typical British vehicle manufacturer- using the customers as development testers! And we wonder why we make virtually nothing here any more.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: MattC5 on 08, September, 2010 - 15:59:24
After having a load of fun in Voo Doo at MGFeast I have pestered dad into fitting a siren he has had for ages to Goldfinger. Sounds really good :

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/Mobile%20Uploads/0_1.jpg)

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/Mobile%20Uploads/2_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 08, September, 2010 - 18:22:19
Good work  ;D

..you can never have too many "sounds" on a c5alive run  :D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: PLOD11 on 08, September, 2010 - 18:55:38
Karl
I got hold of a "METSOUND"   8)  and might fit that to mine, ;) not sure if the battery would cope though, but it would definately be heard    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Retro Andy on 09, September, 2010 - 07:40:19
Don't forget the human sounds that could be heard during a run like:- "I CAN'T STOP, MY BRAKE CABLE HAS SNAPPED !" or something like that  :D

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 09, September, 2010 - 13:03:02
Don't forget the human sounds that could be heard during a run like:- "I CAN'T STOP, MY BRAKE CABLE HAS SNAPPED !" or something like that  :D

Retro Andy.

...followed by loud laughing from the c5 following you  :o ;D :D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: techytype on 10, September, 2010 - 00:15:51
i like the KISS approach

"GANGWAY FOR LIVE BOMB"

heard a licra clad push bike rider shouting it out as he speed through our high street on the busy pavement.

original, and no abuse at least lol!

Alan
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Retro Andy on 10, September, 2010 - 10:10:00
...followed by loud laughing from the c5 following you  :o ;D :D
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I think if you watch the video's you can normally hear Karl's laugh several times following something thats happened in front of him  :D

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 19, May, 2011 - 10:38:21
Goldfinger is going 24v watch this space ..............
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 25, May, 2011 - 13:21:07
Some parts arrived from our friends in China today  :) :)

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/control%20box/Photo0144.jpg)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: PLOD11 on 25, May, 2011 - 18:51:29
Is this an E bay part, is there a link ??

I am looking to 24 volt mine in the coming weeks, so may need some help with it  ;D

Just found the controller on the net, does it come with the bar grips/ controller or is this a seperate part ??
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 26, May, 2011 - 08:35:46
Hi Plod - the throttle and controllers were separate items - i don't want to recommend them until  i have got them up and running and know they are up to the job -They were done on a budget with Matt's birthday money so time will tell - hope to try and get it going this weekend - if you need any help bud give me a shout as your only just down the road - once i get it sorted your welcome to pop over and see if the set up is suitable for yours. :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 26, May, 2011 - 10:17:12
That looks like the same kit Scott got for his "Bluebird" conversion, will be nice to see how it peforms .Could save a few pennies for future 24v conversions  :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: PLOD11 on 26, May, 2011 - 12:57:55
No problem, i have had a look at several of these and it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Thanks   ;D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Lancealot on 04, July, 2011 - 17:43:53
Hi all, have you completed a 24v conversion yet with these items yet.

Could do with knowing to see if going 24v with a spare C5 I have aquired.

thanks Lance
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: wubbert on 04, July, 2011 - 22:04:52
Hi all, have you completed a 24v conversion yet with these items yet.

Could do with knowing to see if going 24v with a spare C5 I have acquired.

thanks Lance

I'm interested too in the results.....because i try the 24v 250w and it doesn't had enough power  :-\
so i ordered the 350W.....but i measured that the 250w only did 160watt  >:(
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 05, July, 2011 - 08:30:08
Hi Folks thanks for the interest - I will post some pics soon but our initial findings are :

Initial start off is very slow and under powered - poor performance on hills - ok on flat and when up to full speed - the control box i would suggest is not really up to the job and appears to have no adjustment to 'tweek' it. Having said that  i think its gentle smooth action may be kinder to the gearbox and as young Matt is driving is safer ! For those wanting a serious conversion maybe this is not the best set up and the more expensive dedicated adjustable controllers are the way to go.
As for reliability the same set up is being run on the next c5alive outing and hopefully Bluebird will report back on how he gets on.

Radiomarty
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 05, July, 2011 - 08:34:14
....As for reliability the same set up is being run on the next c5alive outing and hopefully Bluebird will report back on how he gets on.

Radiomarty


given "bluebirds" history I really hope fortune favours the brave  ;D
...testing a newly converted and modified c5 on its first ever proper run is usually interesting , but doing so in another country has to be a first ! Hopefully it will be enertaining in the best possible way  8)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 14, August, 2011 - 22:44:56
I have been asked by several people how Goldfinger 24v conversion is going - my initial thoughts are thus :

We planned to do a conversion on a very limited budget to 'test' the water - we purchased a cheap 24v 350watt control for around £7 and a throttle for about £4 - the initial feeling was although slow on take off and struggling a little on hills ,for such a cheap price and having a good speed on the flat once run up, this would prove to be a good cheap solution.

Saturday showed the draw backs - a novice driver with out realizing was holding the front brake on full while also holding full throttle - although an extreme test you could liken this to a very steep hill with a larger c5 rider - the result was a burn out of the Mosfets and the control becoming inoperative.

With this in mind I would conclude that this paticular controller not really up to the job - I think the fact that it appears to have no thermal cut out or acceleration gain control makes it not suitable for C5'S - This is off cause a personal opinion. I intend to try some more controllers and give them some similar stressful conditions to see how they fair. Watch this space for updates.

The controller

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/2011-08-14223647.jpg)

The damage to the controller note the burning from current overload

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/2011-08-14220924.jpg)


Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Lancealot on 14, August, 2011 - 23:43:19
Matt, Nice to know that at least in principle it worked. It may be better to look at a more expensive 24v +500 Watt version as some have +30A capability (approx £18-£47). Note that these do not utilise PWM (Pulse width modulation) for is speed control (as with the 4QD system at approx £120-£140).
 
In easy electrical calculations the standard C5 motor is a 250W at 12v but we know it operates at and is rated upto 29A. The normal calculation is 250W / 12v = 20.8A, but in realistic terms for power factor calculations is 250W / 12v =20.8A x 1.414 = 29.4A.

So for your 24v conversion to operate you need 29A / 1.414 = 20.5A x 24v = 492W.

I hope this helps as I am also looking at converting my 1st C5 to 24v but as this is potentially a big problem using these cheap alternatives.

I would like to know what you did in regard to the various electrical connections and also nice to see some photos. I am looking at adapting the existing wiring harness so that it can be easily changed back to a 12v version by simply unplugging the 24v bits.

Keep trying and keep others off your C5.

Lance
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: PLOD11 on 15, August, 2011 - 00:09:58
I was looking at this one !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Electric-E-Scooter-Engine-Motor-Controller-Throttle-Kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a0b74b684QQitemZ180580824708QQptZLHQ5fDefaultDomainQ5f100
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 15, August, 2011 - 08:07:41
Cheers Plod will take a look - Lance thanks for your thoughts and a very valid point raised on the current capabilities - I have found another controller which does use PVM and is coming in around £25 - it is rated 480amps so may be just on the edge so we are looking into it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160417444429&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Your point about switching back to 12v is also very good idea on two points -
 1. if the control box does fail we can switch back to 12v to get home
2. it would allow us to switch back to road legal -
I did take out all the existing wiring and rewire from scratch because it was becoming 'cluttered' due to goldfingers gadgets i.e strobes ,indicators, sirens etc so i basically have a 12v circuirt running via a fuse box for the gadgets and a seperate 24v circuit - I will post some photo's at some point soon  :) :)
The idea now is to use a 12v basic relay and switch circuit as Karl has sometimes done as our back up. Will keep you posted on progress.......... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 31, August, 2011 - 07:05:09
Just picked up a 4qd controller secondhand on e-bay -.Its a 48v version (room for future experiments) and have converted it to run on 24v - its a uni 4 so may not have enough umph but gonna give it a go- hope to get it fitted over the weekend......... :)

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/2011-08-30164339.jpg)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Lancealot on 31, August, 2011 - 07:40:55
Nice find. I have have just ordered the 4QD Uni 8 - 24v. As was not happy with the cheap alternatives following on from others experiences, so I have bit the bullet and gone safe............
I however looking at modifying to get the POD utilising LED's as close to a standard 12v original style.
Good luck with the mods and look forward to seing it running......

Lance
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 17, September, 2011 - 14:44:08
The trial's continue - have not had a lot of time to play with goldfinger due to 3 complete restorations but decided to quickly fit the 4qd uni 4 controller to see how it goes - please note that 4qd recommend the uni8 however as we picked this up on e-bay cheaply it was worth a shot :

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/radiomarty/2011-09-17145130.jpg)

Sadly the initial pull off and up hill performance was poor but great when up to speed and on the flat - the controller also became very hot so it's endurance must be questioned.

Bottom line is yes it is possible to do this on a budget put you will not get that feeling of initial power and have to be prepared for plenty of pedaling -

What next ..... To fit a basic 12v relay circuit for get home failures and Matt is saving up for a uni 8 - It's been a fun adventure but at the end of the day 'you pay your money - you take your chance'  -- TBC............ 
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Lancealot on 17, September, 2011 - 22:32:52
Hi Matt & Marty, Like the look of the fuse carrier (can I ask were you got if from).  The Uni 8 looks the same as the Uni 4. There must just be a few component changes to allow more current output. The Box is the same but has a thick ali block on the back.

Also do I see a Dragon gearbox???????????

Lance
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Karl on 18, September, 2011 - 22:26:37
Also do I see a Dragon gearbox???????????

Lance

Yes indeed , it's the display prototype from the c5-25 event. 
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 13, May, 2012 - 08:00:21
Now fitted with a Uni 8 controller and performing very well - the mods continue - coming up - 24v display pod - motor temp display - upgraded brakes - chassis reinforcement and some form of  cooling for the motor  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 13, May, 2012 - 08:02:31
Hi Matt & Marty, Like the look of the fuse carrier (can I ask were you got if from).  The Uni 8 looks the same as the Uni 4. There must just be a few component changes to allow more current output. The Box is the same but has a thick ali block on the back.


Lance

Hi Lance - the fuse box was from Halfords - Regards Marty (sorry bud only just noticed your question)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Blue1976 on 02, December, 2012 - 18:16:31
cant wait to get my project up and started .want a custom c5 want a mad paint job.
any idears guys.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: KarlG on 02, December, 2012 - 19:42:15
 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 02, December, 2012 - 19:49:41
The project has been a lot of fun and has evolved over the years now being 24v and more changes planned - can't believe it's 3 years old already !!!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Luke S on 02, December, 2012 - 19:50:29
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Like your confidence  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Luke S on 02, December, 2012 - 19:54:10
The project has been a lot of fun and has evolved over the years now being 24v and more changes planned - can't believe it's 3 years old already !!!  :) :) :) :)
Could you put some pictures of it, i don't think I have seen it.
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: radiomarty on 02, December, 2012 - 20:30:10
Hi Luke - Look at page 5 of this thread pics are there  :)
Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by: Luke S on 03, December, 2012 - 06:48:25
Oh I thought you were talking about another c5 not Goldfinger ::) which I have seen quite a lot of  :)