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Title: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: marra on 01, April, 2012 - 20:12:59
Hi. Would like to start a thread for C5 alternative indicator options.

for front :
( crystal )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DISCOVERY-3-4-AND-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-CLEAR-SIDE-INDICATOR-LIGHT-FREE-POST-/200730802974?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ebc7cfb1e
(Amber )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFENDER-90-110-127-FRONT-INDICATOR-SIDE-REPEATER-/200707730882?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ebb1cedc2

For rear :

(Crystal)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CRYSTAL-FAIRING-UNIVERSAL-INDICATORS-IRIDIUM-LENS-12v-/220588669344?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item335c1bf9a0

(Amber)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bike-It-Large-Oval-Fairing-Indicators-Amber-Lens-105mm-x-55mm-Pair-/190660167505?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2c643b4751

Would like to see other ideas.
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: kamilb1998 on 01, April, 2012 - 20:17:57
The original fronts were old BL units I believe, so the same as fitted to Reliant Scimitars/Bond Bugs etc. and you can get them quite cheaply BUT the rears were made by Sinclair as far as I know and were only fitted to the C5.
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 01, April, 2012 - 20:21:12
The original fronts were old BL units I believe, so the same as fitted to Reliant Scimitars/Bond Bugs etc. and you can get them quite cheaply BUT the rears were made by Sinclair as far as I know and were only fitted to the C5.

Correct! The fronts are generic BL side repeaters MK1 Metro, Land Rover ect
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: marra on 01, April, 2012 - 20:36:39
I thought folk could put ideas together to have something that looks good but not cost the earth. 2 of my C5's have indicators, 2 dont. I will not be paying £120 + just to have the rear ones identical as the fronts can be bought off the shelf now. I already have the front British Leyland indicators already in a drawer somewhere .
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: marra on 01, April, 2012 - 20:52:44
Ok, these are very close to the rear shape:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-Motorcycle-Fairing-Indicators-Black-Body-Amber-Lens-/280817417931?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item416205becb
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: MikeDX on 02, April, 2012 - 00:52:55
Ok, these are very close to the rear shape:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-Motorcycle-Fairing-Indicators-Black-Body-Amber-Lens-/280817417931?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item416205becb

Nice find there mate. Might give those a try
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 02, April, 2012 - 12:42:28
Chas fitted some pretty good ones to his Batmobile!

(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af46/jordan8_2009/IMGP1737.jpg)
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: PLOD11 on 02, April, 2012 - 15:29:03
Chas are those LED indicators ???

Where did you get them ??

John
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 02, April, 2012 - 19:59:50
Hi there John .Here is a video of the indicators .....Bye Chas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh8UWpyuH5w
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Lancealot on 02, April, 2012 - 21:28:31
Here some more indicators.

Clear rear:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-CRYSTAL-FAIRING-INDICATORS-IRIDIUM-Lens-12v-23w-Amber-Bulbs-Pair-/380415524386?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5892883e22 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-CRYSTAL-FAIRING-INDICATORS-IRIDIUM-Lens-12v-23w-Amber-Bulbs-Pair-/380415524386?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5892883e22)
or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Flush-Mount-14x-LED-Turn-Signals-Indicators-/280415184002?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item414a0c2482 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Flush-Mount-14x-LED-Turn-Signals-Indicators-/280415184002?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item414a0c2482)

Lance
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: frankev on 07, April, 2012 - 01:18:04
I have these pictures for the indicators.
Two very small ones on the front, the round ones on the rear. They are from Hella.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YKha2CqbVOg/T3-Gj5hVAdI/AAAAAAAABsE/8DHI2ONDDYs/s576/IMG_3385.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pTRyJPeY9XY/T3-GxEKhSRI/AAAAAAAABsM/I7X9raLImzA/s576/IMG_3386.JPG)
For the C5 purist it might be a horror though 8)

greetz

Frank
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: marra on 07, April, 2012 - 10:28:51
Purist ! ... Horror , Frank .... It looks great  8) personally I prefer yours, infact one of mine has a damaged rear lens and I am not paying stupid money for one. I will look at doing something like yours. Good looking modern style you have there fella.  ;D
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: frankev on 07, April, 2012 - 12:18:21
Hi Marra,

The nice thing about these rear lights, is that they also work as breaking lights. So if I brake they shine twice as bright as the normal rear light.
I bought a plastic cutting board (second hand) to fit the lights in. I made two layers and mounted the lamps on the top layer. This second layer below this one, creates that little extra room you need for the lampholders behind the plastic. I first tried it with wood, but thats not weather proof.

greetz

Frank
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 10, April, 2012 - 10:41:02

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pTRyJPeY9XY/T3-GxEKhSRI/AAAAAAAABsM/I7X9raLImzA/s576/IMG_3386.JPG)


(http://www.en-derin.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/86bcb_eye-macros-jumping-spider3.jpg)  ;D
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: frankev on 10, April, 2012 - 12:58:57
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am glad you didn't place a picture from my hairy arms!

It is nice to see that the "best" solutions are often found in copy-ing nature's way.

greetz

Frank
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: radiomarty on 10, April, 2012 - 13:37:51
I have to agree the light's on your C5 look really good giving it a whole new modern feel - well done that man !! :) :)
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Umpa on 11, April, 2012 - 11:15:23
The original fronts were old BL units I believe, so the same as fitted to Reliant Scimitars/Bond Bugs etc. and you can get them quite cheaply BUT the rears were made by Sinclair as far as I know and were only fitted to the C5.

Correct! The fronts are generic BL side repeaters MK1 Metro, Land Rover ect

Purely for clarification that's not entirely true, they were in fact custom made for the C5, having a lighter orange for a lower wattage bulb. But the basic design is as you say, from the same factory to I bet.
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 12, April, 2012 - 18:02:02
The original fronts were old BL units I believe, so the same as fitted to Reliant Scimitars/Bond Bugs etc. and you can get them quite cheaply BUT the rears were made by Sinclair as far as I know and were only fitted to the C5.

Correct! The fronts are generic BL side repeaters MK1 Metro, Land Rover ect

Purely for clarification that's not entirely true, they were in fact custom made for the C5, having a lighter orange for a lower wattage bulb. But the basic design is as you say, from the same factory to I bet.

My original c5 set still have the part number "AFU3341" which is the same as the austin number.
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Umpa on 12, April, 2012 - 19:43:27
That may be the bottom half of the assembly ?
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Karl on 13, April, 2012 - 09:05:08
Umpa is right, I think we were both there at the time Adam Harper told us that although the front indicators are the same design as metro and other BL cars, they are a slightly different colour due to Sinclair wanting very low power bulbs in them. This obviously pre-dates the fantastic LED stuff available now.

Just like a few other good Sinclair ideas (such as the original Sinclair horn kit) it seems to be an expensive way of correcting a problem that doesn't really exist. 
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 13, April, 2012 - 10:40:12
Just like a few other good Sinclair ideas (such as the original Sinclair horn kit) it seems to be an expensive way of correcting a problem that doesn't really exist.

About right for the c5 lol
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: frankev on 13, April, 2012 - 10:49:05
Just like a few other good Sinclair ideas (such as the original Sinclair horn kit) it seems to be an expensive way of correcting a problem that doesn't really exist. 

BooBoo, what do you mean? People on the bicycle-paths don't hear me riding behind them, so I need the horn kit. The other solution is to install a car horn. I installed a T-Ford horn (about 15 pounds, 110 db) but found that I am causing heart-attacks by my fellow bicycle-path users. ;D
The original hornkit has a very modest beep sound that doesn't let anybody step aside >:(.
I found the best solution in mounting a bicycle bell. The ding-dong sound is loud enough, without triggering annoyance  :o

To be without any kind of warning-signal thing seems like an existing problem.

greetz

Frank
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: radiomarty on 13, April, 2012 - 13:15:59
Hi Frank - I think Karl is referring to the fact Sinclair spent a huge amount of money researching and developing the right tone for the sinclair horn and as we all know the outcome really doesn't work - they would have been better using an of the shelf part and used the development money elsewhere  :) :)
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: peckishere on 13, April, 2012 - 14:51:35
I was thinking if it were possible to 3D scan a pair of the original rear indicators and then finding a person / organization who would 3D print them out?.




For those who don't know about 3D printing, here is a mini documentary on 3D printing from the BBC:


http://youtu.be/hmxjLpu2BvY



For me this technology is very exiting, just think in the future if you break or loose any plastic part for your c5 you could print out a new one at home!. There are also ways of 3D printing metal parts but it is more expensive compared to plastic printing
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: fezza_rs on 13, April, 2012 - 15:08:54
I was thinking if it were possible to 3D scan a pair of the original rear indicators and then finding a person / organization who would 3D print them out?.




For those who don't know about 3D printing, here is a mini documentary on 3D printing from the BBC:


http://youtu.be/hmxjLpu2BvY



For me this technology is very exiting, just think in the future if you break or loose any plastic part for your c5 you could print out a new one at home!. There are also ways of 3D printing metal parts but it is more expensive compared to plastic printing

I can vacuum form a set but that does not let you replicate the lines that are on the inside of the lens to diffuse the light.
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Karl on 13, April, 2012 - 23:08:52
Hi Frank - I think Karl is referring to the fact Sinclair spent a huge amount of money researching and developing the right tone for the sinclair horn and as we all know the outcome really doesn't work - they would have been better using an of the shelf part and used the development money elsewhere  :) :)

...yep, that's what I was referring to  ;)

Spending all that time,effort and money on researching the best theoretical tone for a horn was , in my humble opinion , a bit of a waste of resources
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: Lancealot on 14, April, 2012 - 07:11:18
In regard to the buzzer this is what I have used. Also going to put it on my 24v conversion as all items, lights, horn, POD will be powered by 24v.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/high-power-buzzer-3221 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/high-power-buzzer-3221)

Lance
Title: Re: C5 alternative indicator options.
Post by: frankev on 14, April, 2012 - 09:36:07
For those of you that live in the Netherlands and have interest in 3-D printing.
The universities in our country's have a so called "fablab" You contact them here "info@fablabamersfoort.nl"
http://vimeo.com/11275970
Also we have a group of these people in Enschede they call themselfs "spullenmannen" contact info@spullenmannen.nl. They both have 3D printing and scanning gear.
You can use both of their machines and the 3-D printer after a appointment. First you have to load your design"preferred" in cad-cam. "or make a 3D scan" on the spot.
You pay 50 euro's for a complete model. and the use of the equipment. But, if you leave your design on their computer, for others to use as well, you don't have to pay anything, except some printing materials.
I think that there will be initiatives in England as well.

greetz

Frank