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C5 Help => Tried & Tested : Share your good,or bad, experiences => Topic started by: gertk on 22, April, 2013 - 06:42:20

Title: Victron AGM and PBQ battery
Post by: gertk on 22, April, 2013 - 06:42:20
As an alternative for the expensive Optima batteries I am contemplating using this battery (maybe two):

http://www.ebbm.nl/Webwinkel-Product-6545173/Victron-AGM-Accu-12V-38Ah.html

Anyone got any experience with AGM type batteries ?
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: Ton C5 on 23, April, 2013 - 07:01:01
AGM battery are like gel batteries, so called deep cycle batteries.
i ve got a victor 80 ah gel battery. it gives me good mileages .
not cheap but worth it .
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: gertk on 23, April, 2013 - 17:46:47
For balance I would like to mount two 38 Ah, is your C5 not a bit heavy on one side with a single 80 Ah ?
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: Ton C5 on 23, April, 2013 - 19:51:52
Yes it has about 27 KG more on the lefthand side.
is it a problem, no not in my opinion . the weight is low and close to the wheel.
you could go for 2 smaller ones on each side, with a switch of put em parallel.

normal battery clams don't fit on those batteries, made a new wireharnas with an anderson connector.
try to make a picture of it tomorrow
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: Ton C5 on 24, April, 2013 - 19:53:01
Had a look today, i ve got a 60 ah not 80 ah battery, but it does goed mileage.
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o772/tonc5/WP_20130424_001_zpsd64e0192.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/tonc5/media/WP_20130424_001_zpsd64e0192.jpg.html)
and i made a new wireloom to connect it all
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o772/tonc5/WP_20130424_004_zps969bed66.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/tonc5/media/WP_20130424_004_zps969bed66.jpg.html)
don't cut the wires. just open the controlbox and disconnect them
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: gertk on 28, April, 2013 - 18:26:25
Today I found this:

http://www.awaccu.nl/product/221-55ah-semi-tractie-agm-accu-onderhoudsvrij-gesloten

It seems to have the perfect dimensions for fitting the original lid, I have mailed the supplier to make sure it has a 'left positive' terminal. Some thick brass plates could make the link between the poles and the lid.
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: Ton C5 on 29, April, 2013 - 15:42:05
here the data sheet, there are even strips available to connect the cover

http://webshop.batimp.nl/webshop/pdf/LZAQLL12550.pdf (http://webshop.batimp.nl/webshop/pdf/LZAQLL12550.pdf)
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: gertk on 01, May, 2013 - 17:55:31
I ordered the PBQ battery as it seems to be the best fit, fingers crossed  :)
Title: Re: Victron AGM battery
Post by: gertk on 06, May, 2013 - 22:07:45
Well, the PBQ battery itself fits perfectly in the C5: it clicks right into the bottom slot and underneath the retainer strip at the back. Alas I need to modify the lid as it is too high when fitted. Inside the lid there are some plastic strips I need to cut back so the lid will sit lower on top of the battery.

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/gertk64/2013-05-05100404_zpsefe20e14.jpg) (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/gertk64/media/2013-05-05100404_zpsefe20e14.jpg.html)

Alas, the retainer at the back seems to grab the lower rim of the Oldham battery (which is not present on the PBQ) so I had to make a spacer of about 17 mm between the retainer and the bottom. Now it sits firmly. I have modified the lid with a Dremel tool and made two small thick brass strips with a 6mm bolt on which the original nuts fit. From the top it looks quite original.

So far so good, still the keyswitch block does not make a reliable contact, I need to wiggle it a bit to get connection.
More investigation needed.

Next step: check the 'grease status' of the motor, wheels, steering and pedals.
Title: Re: Victron AGM and PBQ battery
Post by: gertk on 09, May, 2013 - 17:50:21
Some more pictures:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/gertk64/2013-05-09140739_zpsa4d36880.jpg)

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/gertk64/2013-05-09140746_zpsae06dcf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Victron AGM and PBQ battery
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 09, May, 2013 - 20:31:59
Looking great well done .... :) ;)
Title: Re: Victron AGM and PBQ battery
Post by: Howard81 on 10, May, 2013 - 14:35:37
Very interested to know the range you get out of that battery!
Title: Re: Victron AGM and PBQ battery
Post by: gertk on 27, July, 2013 - 12:36:41
Very interested to know the range you get out of that battery!

In my first test drive I have driven 20 km in two runs of 10 km and the battery indicator on the pod dropped a single bar, alas the top speed went down from 23 km/h to 19 km/h.