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C5Alive General Category => C5 Chatroom => Topic started by: Luke S on 26, December, 2012 - 13:05:19
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what do the pod lights mean on the left and the right hand side ??? ??? ???
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Hi there Luke take a look at the photo's ....Sorry about the contrast of the photo's if you cannot read them let me know ..
Bye Chas
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af46/jordan8_2009/1-SINCLAIRC5usermanual015.jpg)
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af46/jordan8_2009/2-SINCLAIRC5usermanual016.jpg)
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The lights on the right hand side means the battery condition, those lights go down then the C5 starts beeping at me, the battery is charged up and I got the C5Alive battery clamps about 2 weeks ago, we cleaned the connections when I had a different battery and the key switch it worked fine fir about 2 weeks then it started playing up again so that was when we bought the battery clamps, the C5 worked great for about 2 weeks again now its started to do what happened when I had the key switch, do you think the connections on the battery could be dirty :-\ :-\
The C5 seems to be very complicated for what it is
Thanks, Luke
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Hi Luke - It sounds as if your ULA chip has a defect as this is a classic fault pattern - the only odd thing is that it works for a couple of weeks then starts doing it again - please check your thin brown wire is correctly connected in the control box and that the spade it pushes onto is has a good soldered joint - also make sure the red connector block on the back of the pod is good (ie when you wiggle it does the pod go off) Check the pins on the pod are clean and that the soldered joints are good - If all else fails you could send it to myself and I can test it for you for free if you cover the postage both ways - Marty :)
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The C5 seems to be very complicated for what it is
Not really, it's just getting quite old now and with most of the components starting to exceed their design life the number of problems will start to increase .
As a comparison, consider this - how many cars from the mid 1980's are still even out there running about, let alone doing so reliably ?
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Hi Luke - It sounds as if your ULA chip has a defect as this is a classic fault pattern - the only odd thing is that it works for a couple of weeks then starts doing it again - please check your thin brown wire is correctly connected in the control box and that the spade it pushes onto is has a good soldered joint - also make sure the red connector block on the back of the pod is good (ie when you wiggle it does the pod go off) Check the pins on the pod are clean and that the soldered joints are good - If all else fails you could send it to myself and I can test it for you for free if you cover the postage both ways - Marty :)
What is the ULA chip and where is it on the C5
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don't worry my dad knows
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Hi Luke - It sounds as if your ULA chip has a defect as this is a classic fault pattern
What can you do if this has gone
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The C5 seems to be very complicated for what it is
Not really, it's just getting quite old now and with most of the components starting to exceed their design life the number of problems will start to increase .
As a comparison, consider this - how many cars from the mid 1980's are still even out there running about, let alone doing so reliably ?
My dad has 2 1972 GT6's they run fine, they have probably been looked after well
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Hi Luke - It sounds as if your ULA chip has a defect as this is a classic fault pattern
What can you do if this has gone
Sadly at the moment there is no replacement - however Karl G is looking into it think - I need to contact him when I get a few spare minutes !
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The C5 seems to be very complicated for what it is
Not really, it's just getting quite old now and with most of the components starting to exceed their design life the number of problems will start to increase .
As a comparison, consider this - how many cars from the mid 1980's are still even out there running about, let alone doing so reliably ?
My dad has 2 1972 GT6's they run fine, they have probably been looked after well
...and I expect the GT6's cost a lot more than a c5 and have had considerably more spent on them in restoration, maintenance and general running costs - just like my MGF . Horses for courses ;)
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I have sorted out the problem by cleaning the battery terminals and the connections on the back of the pod, I'll go out on it sume time and see if it still works. :) :) :) :)
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I took it out just now and the lights on the pod went down then started beeping again >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I did not go far and I put my hand on the motor and it was warm. Is it meant to get warm if you have done about 1/4 of a mile
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I have cleaned the terminals. Then once I have done about 100 meters the 2 green lights go out. Then once I have done about 1/4 of a mile it starts beeping at me, what dose the beeping mean/ telling you??????????? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Hi there luke on a pod that works as it should The beeping is telling you that either the motor is over heating or the battery level is very low and the C5 will shut down very soon .But as with your case it looks like the ULA chip is faulty .And giving out false information .
Regarding the temp of the motor it will get hot as there is no fan to cool it down but that is normal ...
You will need to get another pod that is working (That is if you can )and connect it in to your C5 to see if the same thing happens ..
You may have to contact Marty...to test it for you
Bye Chas
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So if it is the ULA chip I would need to buy a new pod :P :P
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It might be telling you that your battery is shot!
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Ok what you can do is to make sure the batter is fully charged put it back on the C5 and switch the power on so the pod lights up .
Then just wait you may see that the lights go down on the right hand side very quickly if so the pod is faulty ....and you may have to bypass it to keep you going but without any info from the pod ....
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its always worth checking and testing the battery as well.
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Ok what you can do is to make sure the batter is fully charged put it back on the C5 and switch the power on so the pod lights up .
Then just wait you may see that the lights go down on the right hand side very quickly if so the pod is faulty ....and you may have to bypass it to keep you going but without any info from the pod ....
The lights stay up when the C5 is not moving, but when I am moving they go down quicker I think the pod is dead :( :( :( RIP pod ;D ;D
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Hear are some pics of the pod
When I connect the battery
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag126/Luke20008/DSCN0246_zps24a69b23.jpg)
When the last few lights on the right go out
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag126/Luke20008/DSCN0248_zps43ea2ab7.jpg)
Sorry the pics are a bit bleary
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Hi I have also got this issue with one of my C5s and its either a faulty ULA chip or its a bad connection of the 10 way red cable loom / connector. Make sure the terminals in the connectors are clean and corrasion free and that the pins of the POD are also corrosion free and no issues with solder joints.
I have to wiggle my connector to the POD as there is some corrosion to the inner pins - another job when I have time.
Hope it helps
Lance
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Thanks, Lance
I'll see if I can get my dad to do it
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Well dose anyone have a pod or the circuit board for the pod for sale :-\ :-\
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On the back of the pod how many red wires are there, mine has 9 red wires :-\ :-\
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On the back of the pod how many red wires are there, mine has 9 red wires :-\ :-\
I believe 9 wires is correct.
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Well dose anyone have a pod or the circuit board for the pod for sale :-\ :-\
I think that if someone was offering a POD for sale they would be in touch with you. There is no need to post about it several times a day.
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I have just found this on the form
http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1601.0.html (http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1601.0.html)
Are these still for sale as as you know my ULA chip has gone.
The man hasn't been online since the 12 June
Dose any one know the chap
If so could you please get in touch
Luke
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I have Emailed the bloke and hopefully I'll get a reply :) :)
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Hi Luke, the red cable loom has 9 wires connected to a 10 way connector.
You will not get a reply from Phil as he has left the C5 forum unfortunately but he left the POD replacement a freeware.
Lance
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Hi Luke, the red cable loom has 9 wires connected to a 10 way connector.
You will not get a reply from Phil as he has left the C5 forum unfortunately but he left the POD replacement a freeware.
Lance
Thanks Lance ;) ;)
Has any one made one of these ULA replacement modules before, if so approximately how long would it that my dad to do
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I have bought a pod off eBay hopefully it will work :D :D :D :) ;)
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I have bought a pod off eBay hopefully it will work :D :D :D :) ;)
The pod I bought is different to the picture on eBay according to the seller so it probably wont work :( :( >:( >:(
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You were assured yesterday that it would work, why not wait and see.
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You were assured yesterday that it would work, why not wait and see.
It works!!! :) :) :)
But now the motor dose not work, dose any one know how to get round this problem
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Also are the lights on the left hand side meant to flash when the c5 is not moving
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Hi Luke
Sorry to hear you are having problems. As far as I know, the left hand set of LEDs shouldn't flash when stationary. They certainly don't on my C5. As far as I am aware only the outer set of orange LEDs on the left hand bank should stay on (not flashing) when the motor is not in use.
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Year the 2 orange ones on the left hand side don't flash
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May be it's flashing because the motor wont work. The motor works fine with the other pod but not with this one :-\ :-\
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The motor works fine with the other pod but not with this one
Looks like your new POD is just as broken as your old one. Have you considered removing the POD and control box and just running your C5 from a relay? It'll save you all the hassle/cost of dealing with faulty ULA chips.
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I'll just see if I can get my dad to look at it tonight
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Hi Luke- sounds like possibly another duff pod - the offer is still there if you want to stick them in the post to me I will see whats wrong with them for you - just cover the postage (£4 ish) - Marty
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I'll talk to my dad when he gets home.
Can you swap ULA chips over between 2 pods :-\ :-\
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Yeah you can swap them over. Just be careful to handle them correctly and protect them from static.
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Hi Luke,
your best bet is to send both units to Marty, if any thing can be saved he's the man. I don't know if your Dad is into electronics, if not then it's best to leave it to an expert. The chips in the POD can be VERY easily damaged by static electricity. If you mess up then it will mean a lot of work and money.
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My dad got it working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It may not work for very long but we will see. I'll send another reply if I go out tonight to tell you all how it goes, if it stops working again I'll see if I can send them off to Marty :) :) :)
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I ran it to my old primary school and back which was about 2 miles or more and it ran fine all the way, but the 4 out side orange lights went out but is still ran, my dad and I think it's just a dirty connection. Now all we have to do is change the front of my old pod with the new one because the it's a bit grey
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It does sound like you may have another duff/partly duff POD. I don't think that there is any connection that could cause the problem you are now experiencing.
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Hi as previously advised I have a C5 that the battery lights disappear but the C5 still runs. I have to wiggle the connector at the back of the POD. It is definately bad connections from the 10 way connector as the POD works on another C5. It is not as bad as your issue so I have not done anything with it yet.
It might be a good idea to look at replacing the connector with a crimped pin type or solder type connector as the original is a cheap push cable with v shape prong type - not the best.................
Have a look at Maplins - they do a 10 way (FY94C)
http://www.maplin.co.uk/0.1-series-socket-housing-1490 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/0.1-series-socket-housing-1490)
Lance
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It does sound like you may have another duff/partly duff POD. I don't think that there is any connection that could cause the problem you are now experiencing.
The C5 works fine though :-\ This is the best its work since I got it at the beginning of August
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Hi as previously advised I have a C5 that the battery lights disappear but the C5 still runs. I have to wiggle the connector at the back of the POD. It is definately bad connections from the 10 way connector as the POD works on another C5. It is not as bad as your issue so I have not done anything with it yet.
It might be a good idea to look at replacing the connector with a crimped pin type or solder type connector as the original is a cheap push cable with v shape prong type - not the best.................
Have a look at Maplins - they do a 10 way (FY94C)
http://www.maplin.co.uk/0.1-series-socket-housing-1490 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/0.1-series-socket-housing-1490)
Lance
Hi Lance thanks for the link - the problem I mainly come across is with the pin connections in the pod be it dry joints or corroded pins etc - I have had real problems sourcing the longer reach pins used - the pitch is still 0.1 however the majority of supplies only stock the shorter reach versions (like these :http://www.maplin.co.uk/2.54mm-0.1in.-pin-strip-1500)- if you ever come across them I would very much appreciate a link - Cheers Marty
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Hi Marty have you tried Farnells - Big electrical outlet based in leeds.
I will have a look next week when in work.
Lance
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Hi Marty, what lenght are you looking for?
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Hi Marty have you tried Farnells - Big electrical outlet based in leeds.
I will have a look next week when in work.
Lance
Thanks Lance (blimey Farnells forgot all about them - used to buy from them in the late 80's)
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Hi Marty, what lenght are you looking for?
Hi Karl - Measured from the top of the pin to the bottom of the pin is 22MM (standard is 11.6mm)- Regards Marty
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I'll be sending my old pod to you soon as that is the one that dose not work ;)
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Hi Luke,
if I were you, ::) I'd send both units to Marty. If you have problem 'A' with one and problem 'B' with the other maybe Marty can make one good one from the two.
Just a thought.
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The one I got about 2 days ago works fine, It's the old pod that came with the C5 dose not work. The only problem with the new pod I got 2 days ago is that one of the resisters have nearly burnt out so I'll see if I can get my dad to replace it but it works fine now with the nearly burnt out resister :) :) :)
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The one I got about 2 days ago works fine, It's the old pod that came with the C5 dose not work. The only problem with the new pod I got 2 days ago is that one of the resisters have nearly burnt out so I'll see if I can get my dad to replace it but it works fine now :) :) :)
You do risk causing more damage if you simply leave it, if it were me I'd get it fixed ASAP. I would also leave the repairs to experienced individuals such as Marty unless your Dad knows what he's doing with electrics and replacing components.
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Yes, my dad dose know about the electrics :) I'll get my dad to replace that resister ASAP
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I don't want my C5 to have more problems ;)
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Hi Luke - i'm guessing (without seeing it) your resistor that is burning out is R21 (10ohm) which , in my experience, can cause major damage to the ULA chip as it sits on the voltage regulation line - I would advice you to get your dad to change it before you use the C5 anymore - Marty
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Yes it is the resister R21
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Hi Luke - i'm guessing (without seeing it) your resistor that is burning out is R21 (10ohm) which , in my experience, can cause major damage to the ULA chip as it sits on the voltage regulation line - I would advice you to get your dad to change it before you use the C5 anymore - Marty
My dad thinks if it dose burn out nothing will happen but I'll get him to read your post ::) ::) ::)
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Hi Luke - i'm guessing (without seeing it) your resistor that is burning out is R21 (10ohm) which , in my experience, can cause major damage to the ULA chip as it sits on the voltage regulation line - I would advice you to get your dad to change it before you use the C5 anymore - Marty
My dad thinks if it dose burn out nothing will happen but I'll get him to read your post ::) ::) ::)
Do you not think Marty has a little more experience with how the POD works than your dad does?
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I'm not saying that
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That's why I am sending my pod to Marty so he can sort it out
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Me and my dad have just opened the pod I got not that long ago. We found that that the 10ohm (R21) resister was unsoldered so we put that new resister in and soldered it both sides then we put it on the C5 now we are back to square one, the left hand side lights are flashing again. What is the effect on the C5 if you unsolder that resister, it was working fine when that was unsoldered :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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And also the motor has stoped
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Can I still use the C5 without that resister
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I'm sorry that I keep re posting my self but if I can get away with taking this resister out of the circuit board in the pod so the C5 works I will do so :)
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Have you sent a POD off to Marty?
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Hi Luke,
Re-read reply 62 before you cause any fatal damage. Don't look for an easy way out of something that has no easy way out of. If you KILL the ULA THAT'S IT.
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Have you sent a POD off to Marty?
Not quite yet. I need to get Marty's Email address's first, I'll be Emailing him soon
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Hi Luke,
Re-read reply 62 before you cause any fatal damage. Don't look for an easy way out of something that has no easy way out of. If you KILL the ULA THAT'S IT.
That resister was out when I got the pod so we just assumed it was fin until we saw that burnt out resister so we replaced it now it's not working. I won't take that resister out again because I don't want anything major going wrong
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Can you just not be patient, send your POD off to Marty? You also claim your dad knows what he's doing with electrics - maybe he shouldn't attempt repair in an area that he's not experienced in and just leave it to the professionals.
You ask for help and then come across as if you think you didn't need it. :-\
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I'm just wondering if his father was grounded before he started to work on the POD, if not it could well be a case of 'finito'.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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..Luke is just really keen, go with the flow 8)
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In the words of another C5 owner I was chatting to yesterday about Marty... "In the C5 world, the man's a legend" 8)
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I was chatting to yesterday about Marty
Who is yesterday ;D ;D ;D
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Hi Luke - i'm guessing (without seeing it) your resistor that is burning out is R21 (10ohm) which , in my experience, can cause major damage to the ULA chip as it sits on the voltage regulation line - I would advice you to get your dad to change it before you use the C5 anymore - Marty
Hi Marty could you email me your Address so I can post you the pod soon