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Title: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 22, August, 2013 - 22:07:39
Hi there!
Have just obtained a fairly complete C5 (saved it from the skip at work at least!) and I am hoping to restore it to its former glory over the next few months. Have been having a good old read up on here over the last couple of days and have come across my first problem. I have no original battery and don't know if any of the motor/ electricals work, I noticed that ill need a wiring kit to fit a normal car battery and that they are not available at the mo. hoping someone might have a 2nd hand one lurking around, or if anyone can tell me when they will be coming available again, or even send me a wiring diagram on how to make one (cheeky I know but you never know lol)

Gonna be carrying out a bit of a strip down over the weekend to see what else I need so I could be making a bit of a pest of myself looking for parts/ help on wiring up parts etc, got a few ideas on making some tasteful mods whilst doing this refurb so any help will be gratefully received!

Will post some pics when (a) I've taken some and (b) I find out how to upload them to a forum! (I've never really used these properly before lol)
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: PLOD11 on 22, August, 2013 - 23:23:43
Welcome to the forum

You will get all the help you need and more, someone will have the answer to most things C5.

I think Chas is doing the Wiring kits on e bay, you can also get them direct from him plus some other rare parts not available elsewhere.

This link will get you started  on your C5 journey :)  http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,627.0.html

[What part of the country are you in, there will probably be another c5 owner nearby.

Any help you need just ask ...

John - PLOD11
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 23, August, 2013 - 06:40:09
Thanks for your reply John

Feeling a bit better now knowing that I can get some of the parts I need, was starting to think that it was only ever gonna be a strange looking bike lol.

Been looking through some of those links there's more info on there than most car sites that I go on! You guys really are dedicated!

I live in the Manchester area, so hopefully there's someone nearby on hand to help

1 question I have is about posting pics, is there any way of doing this using an iPad, my pc is on the blink and don't know if using photobucket will work on this (truth is I've never used any of these, I have a Dropbox account but don't know If that's any help)

Any help is very gratefully received!
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: musntgrumble on 23, August, 2013 - 20:23:57
Welcome buddy. Im in Poynton , Im certainly no expert but Im learning and Ive managed to get mine going with some great help from the guys on here. Ill help if I can cheers Mark
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 23, August, 2013 - 21:39:40
Hi there Welcome to the site any help you want just ask .Bye Chas
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: musntgrumble on 24, August, 2013 - 15:08:29
South Manchester Stockport way
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 25, August, 2013 - 06:58:21
Nice to know there's so many helpful people! Thanks guys for your offers of help, I'm thinking the only help ill need will be with wires as that's my weak point, and as I've only got the basic version with no added indicators, horn etc (and planning to fit with full led conversion) I got a feeling I need to get my head around it pretty quick lol

I am based in the nice bit of salford (there is one honest)

Got a morning of taking photos and stripping it down today so I can find out what I need to buy/ scavenge. It looks very complete but I'm sure I'll find some vital part missing
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 25, August, 2013 - 07:51:28
Hi there if you need any help you could go to my vides and take a look on youtube ...JORDAN8ISH

Bye Chas
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 25, August, 2013 - 13:41:06
Been taking a few photos, given it a clean, and tried to repair some punctures so I could have a little ride on it.

Had my first bit of trouble as the rear wheel bearings have broken up and has damaged the threads on the rear axle. So spent a little time making the best repair I could on the damaged threads.

The two rear inner tubes are completely shot, just too old and leaking from around the valves. Luckily though, the front tube is exactly the same as my daughters pram wheels, so I have now stolen her spare tube lol. And as it has an angled valve it's even easier to pump it up too!

Been fighting with photobucket on my iPad and getting it to post pics is proving a pain so gonna try typing a link to my library, feel free to have a look if it works

Http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/John_E_76/slideshow
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 25, August, 2013 - 13:51:03
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Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 25, August, 2013 - 13:53:02
Ha ha! I've finally Sussed it, thank god there's an app for that lol

The last picture I found some cut wires on the wiring behind the seat, are they for indicators? Or is it something that needs a repair?
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 25, August, 2013 - 19:11:18
Hi there wires behind the seat are for the indicators and the horn ..Do not cut them ....
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: musntgrumble on 26, August, 2013 - 21:06:45
Looks in fab condition underneath. Is that coffee you have spilt on the front :) To get the best finish I use a green scourer dipped in water with some cif cream cleaner ( as recommended on here) plus a sprinkling of my magic ingredient  to give it a little more "bite" ................. good old fashioned Vim !! I bought from a pound shop locally and it works better than cif on its own ,anyone under 45 is unlikely to of ever heard of it though !
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 26, August, 2013 - 22:25:55
I been real lucky it's in really good condition, just really dirty from being stored in our workshop store container for over a year and before that in our bosses garage. Gave it a good steam clean yesterday to get rid of most of the dirt although I couldn't get the oil off of it. Gonna have a look around our valet bay tomorrow and see if there's anything there to get rid of it, if not ill try the cif and scourer method.

Ordered some new rear wheel bearings and rear inner tubes this morning so that'll keep me busy for a while then I can have my first go in it. Then next job is to test the motor to see if it works.
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: musntgrumble on 27, August, 2013 - 10:05:39
Sounds good, I had some good quality alloy wheel cleaner which helped in the early stages that might be worth a try on the oil
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: danny7147 on 27, August, 2013 - 21:46:37
Been taking a few photos, given it a clean, and tried to repair some punctures so I could have a little ride on it.

Had my first bit of trouble as the rear wheel bearings have broken up and has damaged the threads on the rear axle. So spent a little time making the best repair I could on the damaged threads.

The two rear inner tubes are completely shot, just too old and leaking from around the valves. Luckily though, the front tube is exactly the same as my daughters pram wheels, so I have now stolen her spare tube lol. And as it has an angled valve it's even easier to pump it up too!

Been fighting with photobucket on my iPad and getting it to post pics is proving a pain so gonna try typing a link to my library, feel free to have a look if it works

Http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/John_E_76/slideshow

Hey, welcome :) Is it really just me who knows how to bypass Flickr and Photobucket copyright to copy pictures? :/
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: Lord Fox Sinclair on 29, August, 2013 - 20:59:08
Hi there hope you guys are all well..

I'm actually in the market for a c5 so any help would be appreciated also.

If anyone has a basic model etc feel free to let me know.

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 31, August, 2013 - 16:14:17
Well finally have it mobile! Had a little play in it last night and I see what brings you back for more.

Had a good go at cleaning it today with some industrial traffic film remover (usually brilliant at cleaning stuff) and although I have the worst of the oil off, it still has some yellow staining on the front and some of the black scratch marks are a little too stubborn to get off.
Gonna go and get some cif cream and a nail brush and have another go tomorrow (would do it tonight but the wife has invited friends over, how rude!)

Can't wait to get this thing running on electric power now!
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 31, August, 2013 - 17:24:17
Hi there you could invite friends and have a C5 cleaning party  ...in exchange for a ride in it when it's cleaned ....You never know ....
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: Jonatan on 31, August, 2013 - 20:52:54
Hi there you could invite friends and have a C5 cleaning party  ...in exchange for a ride in it when it's cleaned ....You never know ....
Ha, very funny! Gonna try that in the future! :-D

Yours,
Jonatan
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 01, September, 2013 - 14:13:04
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More photos after I gave it a clean up! Staining is worse than the pics show but I'm stubborn and will get them off.

Another question I've got is with the 4th pic, it's on the right hand underside of the seat, is this just a charging mount or is it for anything else? Sorry if I sound dim but I hear of all these twin battery/ 24v conversions just wondering if it could be something to do with it.
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 01, September, 2013 - 15:00:44
Hi if you could post some photos of the inside of the plugs we maybe let you know what they are for ...
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 01, September, 2013 - 17:11:04
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Hope this is of some help, it's a bit tight squeezing this iPad into the gap lol. Thanks for the help!
Just been trying to get rid of the neighbours it's stirring up a bit of interest
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: Karl on 02, September, 2013 - 20:00:35
some strange non-Sinclair items fitted there buddy ...
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 03, September, 2013 - 20:13:55
Well there has been some good news!

I have connected the battery straight tbuthe motor and we have power!

Just to find out if the control box and pod are any good now.
I have disconnected the strange wiring from those posts on the right hand side of the seat which just linked over to the other side, so was guessing that if I disconnect the ignition swich and connected to a battery would it all power up?

Have had a little look inside the pod and i think it all looks okay inside, but obviously until I can get some power to it I am only guessing

Again thanks for any help I get, just hope I am getting somewhere now
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 04, September, 2013 - 19:58:25
Excellent news!

I have just run a couple of temporary wires from switch to battery and I have a fully operational C5!
Everything lighting up and working just as it should

All this for the grand repair cost (including getting the C5) of a whole £12

Just need a wiring kit for the battery now then I am sorted (although this might have to wait a month as I have 2 trips across the country next month  >:( bloody petrol!

But all in all, I am well chuffed and appreciated everyone's help so far

So I need to get back to the cleaning to get these stains off then maybe look at fitting some LED indicators (great when you can lose some of this stuff at work lol)
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: Lancealot on 09, September, 2013 - 19:57:08
Hi John-E-76,

What part of Salford as I also live Manchester, Salford, M7.

I have two fully working C5s and one that is being converted to 24v but just don't have time to complete.

email me direct and could could see about catching up..

I got to heaton park with the kids all the time on my C5.

Lance
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 09, September, 2013 - 21:44:11
Hiya!

I am in Swinton, so not too far!

Not had much time for the C5 this weekend as my 18 month old daughter is being a bit of a handful, and getting stuff ready for a wedding this weekend (amazing how much stuff I got to cram into a golf)

Just managed to have a little go on it Sunday afternoon, don't know whether my temporary wiring to the battery wasn't man enough, or the hill that I live in was too steep, but it didn't seem to be working as good as it should, and needed to disconnect the battery a couple of times to stop that annoying beeping. But I did get plenty of looks and a couple of people taking pictures

Once I get a bit more time I think it'll be time for the proper battery wiring, and hopefully it'll cure my woes lol

I'd definatly be up for catching up, give my missus ears a rest (she doesn't understand the fuss), and Heaton park sounds like fun, some of the hills there will take some serious pedalling
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: pso-buzz on 10, September, 2013 - 00:49:39
Well there are a few of us from Manchester now then.  Shall we arrange a meet/run?

Simon
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: Lancealot on 11, September, 2013 - 19:21:05
Yes soon before the weather gets bad. Can only do weekend afternoons as the boys play football, saturday and sunday mornings.

lance
Title: Re: Hello everyone!
Post by: John_E_76 on 12, September, 2013 - 20:40:05
I'm in! Can't do this weekend or the weekend of the 11th October, but I'm certainly interested in meeting other people with these things! Mine is still a bit of a work in progress but with a bit of time and elbow grease I'm sure I can make the old thing look presentable.