Here is my next restoration/project will be a 24 volt C5
here are a few photo`s
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Oooh exciting - will you be selling after? If so how much and 'dibbs'!!
Hi I am a long way from completing it yet but if it`s a success I will be making 2 more
Keep checking the site.
Regarding the plate thickness I will let you know tomorrow ...
Interesting Chas.............................. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Lance
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 04, December, 2011 - 18:01:45
Hi I am a long way from completing it yet but if it`s a success I will be making 2 more
Keep checking the site.
So is that a yes on the selling front? I want a 24V so badly but get stuck inflating the tyres so really want one done by a pro. 8)
This is going to be good :)
Retro Andy.
Did a little work on the c5 today take a look ....
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Hi there Dave the plate I used was 3mm thick aluminum ..
Looks blooming amazing - Will the plate metal keep some of the heat in that area do think? Would drilling holes make it lighter and aid ventilation?
Wouldn't look as wicked though.
Got told my C5 was both 'Sick mate!' as well as 'proper job' today!
Hi there the only thing I can say is that the speed controller now has a greater area to dissipate the heat as well as the fan cooling it down , but if as you say drilling holes in the aluminum plate may cool it better only time will tell ..
Bit like the aluminium body MacBook Pro's - hardly needs the fan because the body dissipates the heat.
One more photo .Just testing the wiring for the indicator`s + lights and horn .
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af46/jordan8_2009/24voltind.jpg)
Looking good Chas :)
Quite fancy a 24v one day, and wouldn't trust my skills to do it myself, so will have to keep checking back and see how this progress's.
Darren
Thanks ...Done as much as I can at the moment on the frame just waiting for the pulleys for the motor to arrive and then I will have them bored out to the right size to fit on the motor
So I will now I will start on upgrading the front wheel ,It will be metal and have disc brakes ...
Here is the front wheel upgraded to metal and the disc fitted , and the caliper ready to be welded to the forks .As you may see there is some damage to the forks due to opening them out but I will fill in the dents before painting them
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af46/jordan8_2009/FRONTDISCBRAKE.jpg)
Chunky tyres - Ready for new year snow?
Hi the tyres came with the wheel .not sure if to use them or not .
Pulleys came today will be bored out and ready to fit tomorrow ?????
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 08, December, 2011 - 13:01:30
Hi the tyres came with the wheel .not sure if to use them or not .
Would add some grip in the winter months but I love the look of Schwalbe one, and of course they are low resistance too.
I wonder if the mountain bike ones would make the ride a bit rattlely?
Quote from: thedesigntailor on 10, December, 2011 - 11:54:30
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 08, December, 2011 - 13:01:30
Hi the tyres came with the wheel .not sure if to use them or not .
Would add some grip in the winter months but I love the look of Schwalbe one, and of course they are low resistance too.
I wonder if the mountain bike ones would make the ride a bit rattlely?
...you end up with a "land rover" hum ;D , Radiomarty had some knobblies fitted during an earlier Crawley run and raised quite a smile :D
I think I will put on a Schwalbe on the front ...
I am using the original axle ...
just been working on the electronics the body I have had no wiring at all so I am replacing it with my own to take in account the 12 volt and 24 volt system ...(.lights indicators horn amp meter will all be 12 volt)
Starting to take shape Chas, keep us posted.
Got some 'special stickers' for my 24v conversion that I hope to do some work over the Xmas break......Shoooo!!!!!!!!
Lance
Special 24V stickers Lance? Is that wise seeing as it's not strictly road legal?
I agree , i wouldn't advertise the fact if you intend using it in a public place - If you know what i mean.
:o :o :o :o :o
The front wheel now completed ready to fit
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Quote from: dave in hull on 12, December, 2011 - 18:11:21
What would happen to you if you got caught on the road with 24 volt kit on they cant ban you
Tell them you're running on 12V. I seriously don't think they would bother checking. They probably wouldn't know what a 24V conversion on one of these is in the first place.
Probably an on the spot penalty - just like riding your bike on the pavement. But Kam's right. They wouldn't know how to check even if they knew the law on electric vehicles. 8)
I'm guessing that you are using a motor vehicle not complying with Construction and Use regulations, unregistered, uninsured, no helmet. Probable punishment, severe.
Quote from: coverman on 13, December, 2011 - 11:24:21
I'm guessing that you are using a motor vehicle not complying with Construction and Use regulations, unregistered, uninsured, no helmet. Probable punishment, severe.
Not if you're using it at the A.E.R , Brooklands or similar off-road events/venue ;D
I think as long as it's the first time you get caught you would get a warning at worse. Several times you might get more trouble. Get 12V stickers all over it how would they know?
PS - any more pictures Chas? I love seeing the progress. ;D
Quote from: thedesigntailor on 13, December, 2011 - 17:42:19
Get 12V stickers all over it how would they know?
Or just leave it looking stock?
If used in a sensible way, i am sure all will be fine, but i think flying about at silly speeds would give the game away a bit. :o
Penaltys would as cover man says be "severe", once you enter the area of Construction and use regs You face at the very least confiscation and some sort of Fine. :'( :'( :'(
Most Traffic officers are fully up on regs relating to these sort of vehicles, and you don't want to upset them. :'(
The trick is not to do anything thats going to draw attention to you, and anyway the 24volt C5s would only be us be used at AER and other similar events .... ;)
Hi Plod,correct me if I am wrong but I thought that being 12 or 24volt was not a problem,as long as the speed is kept below 15 MPH?
And the power at no more than 250 Watts?
Yes you are correct .... 12v - 24 v Not a problem .. :)
So yes you are right , but speed must be "LIMITED" to 15mph, IF its capable of more than this then thats where the problem is, also weight limit etc. :-\
Once mods are done and equipment changed, you are moving towards the Classification changing from Electrically assisted tricycle to Motor vehicle and the law relating to construction and use regs etc.
But as i said, a bit of common sense and being sensible by not doing anything thats going to attract attention and every one should be ok. ;)
There wont be any Traffic officers left soon anyway so won't be a problem ;D ;D ;D
Guys - the legal side of this is covered in this earlier topic (found in the forum guide) ;
http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1074.0
..if in doubt, keep the upgraded c5's for using on the track at the AER and other "off-road" events we take part in.
Hi all now all that has been sorted out it`s back to my 24 volt C5
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As you can see the motor has been fitted also the belt.
All it needs now is to test it out ...
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Is that also a new gear box too? So less chance of searing off the gears?
Hi no gearbox needed the motor is rated at 1500 rpm ...And the pulley I have fitted will gear it down to about 26/30 mph .But there is still quiet a lot to do before I can take it out for a test run ...
Looking good Chas !!! :)
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 17, December, 2011 - 19:06:06
Hi no gearbox needed the motor is rated at 1500 rpm ...And the pulley I have fitted will gear it down to about 26/30 mph .But there is still quiet a lot to do before I can take it out for a test run ...
so super reliable then :)
Hi that remains to be seen when it`s completed ....and tested ...
Chas
Hi Chas looking good mate, will be interesting to also see what torque you get in relation to getting up hills, etc.
Interesting motor configuaration. Hope it works as it will solve the motor gearbox issue as the dragon system is still not available.
If I can be of any help don't hesitate to call.
Lance
Hi there Lance as you say regarding the torque I have no idea what it is on this motor I have contacted the makers but not received any reply . All I can do is to test it out .If the torque is low I could come down to a smaller pulley but only by 2 teeth due the size of the motor shaft ..But there are always other way`s of doing it .....
That motor is nearly as big as the one in the c-5000 :o
What is it from Chas ?
Looks like a wheel chair motor but a bit larger
Quote from: thedesigntailor on 19, December, 2011 - 13:27:47
Looks like a wheel chair motor but a bit larger
if it is from a wheelchair probably best not to advertise the fact, I get enough jokes at work about c5's as it is ;D
Haha - and the originals were made by a factory that "also produced torpedo motors", we don't mention washing machines! ;D
Hi there motors where made to cool the tracks on a tank ???? :D :D ::) ;)
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 19, December, 2011 - 15:08:52
Hi there motors where made to cool the tracks on a tank ???? :D :D ::) ;)
That is just awesome mate ;D , cant wait to see how it performs 8)
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 19, December, 2011 - 15:08:52
Hi there motors where made to cool the tracks on a tank ???? :D :D ::) ;)
Seriously? :o
Let's get a mortar on that bad boy and make a C5 tank. Karl's got the connections for the weaponry :D :D
Hi thanks for that but It won`t be a tank but something special ??
I will test it on a old body first while I work on the new one that will be going on it ..
If all the tests go ok it should be ready in about a month
Remember I dibbed first ;D :P
Hi all just to let you know that today I have been out on a test run with the 24 volt C5 that I am building and all went great .But the battery's died on me (they are about 4 years old but I did manage to do about 5 miles before they gave up and after that it was peddling the last mile back home ...Now it`s time to take of the old body now the testing has been done and concentrate building the new one up and fitting the extras . Take a look at the body I used as you will see it`s not one of my best c5 body's but it did the job .No lights /boot/ mirrors/ indicators / front and back wheel covers missing no pod no wiring only for the motor control .But like I said it did the trick......
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Chaz - How heavy is the C5 with the massive motor and 24v batteries?
I will let you know when it is completed .....Regarding the weight of the battery's the only one`s I have are old and about 40 Amp each ..weight ?? will get back to you asap ....
Here we are at last finished the 24 volt Batmobile C5 ...More photos and info to follow
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Looking good matie ;) , those c5's at the Ecovelocity show seem to have been an inspiration to get customising 8)
Here are some more photos of the Grandchildren in the Batmobile
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WOW! :o :o :o
That's amazing Chaz! Love it!
Will you be selling or is it one for the collection?
Nice one Chas, I like it. How about the 24v drive and electronics.
I hope my 24v will be done for the summer (bad back at the moment).
Lance
Another photo .....
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Great job chas looks awesome, What motor and gearbox you running on the Bat ?
Some more photo`s
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Photos of the motor ...They are rated 24 volt at 60 amp 160 rpm and weighs 15 kg .A heavy motor built to last.
So using the correct drive pulley there is know need for a gearbox ...
Regarding the Batmobile it will be for show only ..
But I do have 2 more motors and may use them in an original C5 body and make up two more 24 volt C5s
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Very nice job again Chas, any chance of seeing it in action on you tube ?
Retro Andy.
Hi there Andy I will be making a video and downloading on to Youtube when it gets a bit warmer/dryer
This how it was when I collected it .....
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Chas, It was you who got that C5, I was wandeing who got that one................
Lance
Yes it was me ....
Here is a photo of all the photos of the Batmobile C5
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Beautiful!
Properly jealous (though I would have done Knight Rider!) :D
Maybe next time .......?????????????????/
quite an improvement mate 8)
I want/will to do a k.i.t.t. when I get the chance :)
Retro Andy.
Just had a try with Bat-mobile it runs great ,covered about 15 miles up and down hills checked out the motor and the speed controller and they where just warm . It runs very quiet and very fast .Well far to fast about 40mph I need to get it down to about 25 mph to get more torque out of the motor so just ordered a smaller drive pulley when drilled out and fitted will try again .Video and photo's to follow
Hi Chas,
Are you going to sell these motors and pulleys as I am looking at an alternative for my 24v conversion.
Thanks Lance
Hi there sorry I will not be selling any of the motors I need them myself sorry .....Chas
Will you be selling any of these 24v conversions?
Regarding the 24v Batmobile going to fast I have had another toothed drive pulley drilled out and fitted to the motor .This one has 24 teeth the old one had 30 giving me a top speed of about 35 mph (to fast) .Now the new one has decreased the speed to about 25 mph and given more torque . I Also increased the acceleration on the controller (There was a delay). Just needs another run out....Photo's to follow ....
Here is a video of the indicators .....Bye Chas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh8UWpyuH5w
They look really good Chas - may put a set on Goldfinger as it only has fronts atm - Marty
Hi Chas how have you got the POD LED's setup are they also working with voltage or current or just as indicators.
I take it the outer amber are battery voltage connected.
Lance
Hi there Lance The pod LEDs are just for the indicators if they are on they will flash Left and right or both if the hazard switch is on ..But I have fitted one amber on each end as a power indicator ...
If any one is interested in the back indicators here is where I got them from bare in mind they are not flush fitting and the body needs to be cut out ...and I changed the bulbs to led ones ... The other 3 digit LED one's are for the current and the voltage
EBAY No 190599586444
Quote from: C5 ENTHUSIAST + RESTORER on 03, April, 2012 - 10:12:41
EBAY No 190599586444
Here's the link - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190599586444?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D190599586444%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
Hi there Dave will get back to you with what you want later today ...
bye Chas