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C5 Help => C5 Support => Topic started by: minidaz on 05, May, 2009 - 12:48:42

Title: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: minidaz on 05, May, 2009 - 12:48:42
Got a few ideas , and, after looking around the web, a few questions that i'm sure someone on here will be able to answer  ;D

If i was just after a quick, straight line speed in a C5, rather than something to drive around town on, could i attach a motor straight to a chain, without the need of a gearbox ?

And, would it be feasable to run 2 motors in a C5, and what kind of work do you think this would involve ?

I'm still thinking of going 24v in my current C5 ( just checking the different options ), but also planning on getting another one that i can tinker with  ;D

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 05, May, 2009 - 15:22:37
I think Fezza was working on a twin motor C5, might want to get in contact with him for some advice/ideas.Not sure how far he has got.

I've seen a few chain drive conversions, so it can be done. If memory serves , the reduction ratio needs to be 13:1 ,but I'm happy to be corrected !

The motor is more than happy coping with 24v - even when the controller is maxxed out - but the weak link remains the gearbox.



Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: minidaz on 05, May, 2009 - 17:46:16
Thanks Karl, i'll message him and see what he says.

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Retro Andy on 07, May, 2009 - 16:35:42
I've seen a C5 on e-bay, its advertised as near mint condition and runs out on the 10th May. It is at £520.00 at the moment, but you may find the last picture interesting, the seller is going to be selling a C5 with a 49cc petrol engine. You might be able to get it before it goes on e-bay, it would great fun a bit of fun.   

Retro Andy     
       

   
 
 




Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: minidaz on 07, May, 2009 - 16:52:51
Thanks for the tip. I was actually chatting to Lee about that one when i collected my C5, as he knows the person that built it, and, i believe, has had a go in it aswell.

Have a feeling when that one comes up it will be way past my budget  :D

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 07, May, 2009 - 17:59:40
Quote from: Retro Andy on  07, May, 2009  - 16:35:42
I've seen a C5 on e-bay, its advertised as near mint condition and runs out on the 10th May. It is at £520.00 at the moment, but you may find the last picture interesting, the seller is going to be selling a C5 with a 49cc petrol engine. You might be able to get it before it goes on e-bay, it would great fun a bit of fun.   

Retro Andy 

Well I can tell you they are in Ilkeston and like last time the reserve still is not met, I doubt they will sell it as it reached this last time.
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Leeb7613 on 08, May, 2009 - 15:00:35
Guys,

Just to let you know, yes I can confirm the C5 you are talking about, belongs to my old mate Chas (The C5 Master), it is BRAND NEW and never been on the road, it is in the best nick I have seen a C5 in.

As for the petrol C5, well what can I say?????
Both me and my son Tom have had a go and I can tell you, it goes like STINK  ;)
It has the 49cc engine, twist throttle, electric start/ stop, working horn and indicators and working speedo, for those of you who like 'pimped up' C5's, it even has twin exhausts  ;D     Its engine is fitted into the rear of the C5 on a specially designed plate/ mount, with chain drive, there is some stuff I will have missed, but I cant remember it all  ???

When this comes up on ebay, its well worth a look see, I do have a short video I was going to put on you tube, but if soemone can tell me how to upload on here, I will give it a go!!

Cheers..Lee
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 08, May, 2009 - 19:42:29
That 49cc C5 sounds wicked mate  8)

Pity he doesn't want to hold on to it and show it at "C5-25" in January . I want to have a "modded" section that will include "Malcolm" and the "Ubmobile" etc , assuming all these C5's are still around  :)

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: minidaz on 08, May, 2009 - 19:57:55
You could always buy it Karl  :D

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Leeb7613 on 08, May, 2009 - 20:32:37
Karl,

I know it will be up for sale soon, but Chas is currently working on Mk2 at the moment, so Mk1 might not be up for sale untill Mk2 is completed.

I am going to see Chas tomorrow, so will get the info on what improvements he has designed in over Mk1......I'll keep you all posted!!
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Leeb7613 on 08, May, 2009 - 20:34:12
Sorry forgot.............

I'll see if I can get any photos whilst i'm there, I have the short video, if anyone can tell me if it can be loaded on here??
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: noonoo on 08, May, 2009 - 22:27:38
 Lee

No problem if you want to load it on here - look forward to seeing the video

noonoo
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 09, May, 2009 - 01:35:44
I think lee wants to know how to upload it. Unless I'm mistaken you can only post links, your video will need to be hosted on either YouTube or photobucket. Both have size and format restrictions and require a free account.

Depending on the file size you can always send it to me via msn and I can post it on YouTube.
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Leeb7613 on 10, May, 2009 - 20:48:55
Thanks for the tip, I'll see what i can do!!
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 10, May, 2009 - 21:03:56
Just out of curiosity how much does chas want for his C5

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250418152336

thats a good price but the reserve is still not met.
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 11, May, 2009 - 19:07:27
At one point Mark, previous owner of c5alive, was selling boxed "new old stock" c5's for about £900.

Around the time he sold c5alive he sold one on Ebay for about £600 , so valuing a C5 is not an exact science.

When I placed "Virgin" up for sale I got a few people expressing an interest but no serious offers, so I chose to keep it for exhibitions etc - it was the one used for the studio shots in the recent episode of the Gadget Show.

Fingers crossed Chas gets what he wants, but I'm sure he's aware he is selling in difficult times and quite rightly holding out for the best price.   

New "old stock" C5's can only become more rare,so I expect eventually they will go up in price
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Leeb7613 on 11, May, 2009 - 19:27:55
If you mean the 'standard' C5, I dont know what reserve he has on it (I never asked!).

As for the petrol C5, same again................. I never asked the price, I could'nt, when I was on it last, I passed by him too quick to ask  :o :o

I can ask if you want though??
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 11, May, 2009 - 22:32:13
I was just wondering thats all.
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 12, May, 2009 - 09:50:19
Quote from: minidaz on  08, May, 2009  - 19:57:55
You could always buy it Karl  :D



I dont need to buy the petrol c5, I've now got this ;
http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=266.0

;D

...I'm working on some ideas for this special c5  8)
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 12, May, 2009 - 10:02:06
I was wanting to ask you about that, but thought it was a secret - lol

Have you done anything with it yet ?

I have just been on the wiki and saw this

Degradation
Polypropylene is liable to chain degradation from exposure to UV radiation such as that present in sunlight. For external applications, UV-absorbing additives must be used. Carbon black also provides some protection from UV attack. The polymer can also be oxidized at high temperatures, a common problem during moulding operations. Anti-oxidants are normally added to prevent polymer degradation.

So I have moved my baby into the shade - lol
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 12, May, 2009 - 19:19:02
Having lef a few scrap shells out in my back garden for a couple of years I wouldn't worry too much about the degradation issue - I am confident Sir Clive built the c5 to last the distance  ;D

My plans for the "special" c5 are progressing...thats all I want to say for now  :P :-X

...I'll put you on my list for "test pilot" though  :D
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Umpa on 12, May, 2009 - 19:42:04
Awesome !!

Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Retro Andy on 12, May, 2009 - 21:03:07
How long before you tell more Karl ?

Retro Andy.
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 12, May, 2009 - 21:12:37
Quote from: Retro Andy on  12, May, 2009  - 21:03:07
How long before you tell more Karl ?

Retro Andy.

I'll know a lot more tomorrow as to how far I can go with my idea  8)
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Retro Andy on 12, May, 2009 - 21:28:50
That frame work, motor, gears and brakes are a great improvement, if it could still have the original wheel trims and boot fitted etc, it would be very useable on longer runs, you could sell a few of them Karl if you bring the new and the original together. 

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Karl on 12, May, 2009 - 21:33:36
Quote from: Retro Andy on  12, May, 2009  - 21:28:50
That frame work, motor, gears and brakes are a great improvement, if it could still have the original wheel trims and boot fitted etc, it would be very useable on longer runs, you could sell a few of them Karl if you bring the new and the original together. 

Retro Andy

Building such a fine beastie is beyond my limited skills mate, and the amount of time,materials and effort Spike put into the project probably means producing small numbers of such a machine is not financially viable.

I've enough spare parts to make this special c5 look a lot closer to standard, which is part of my plan  8)
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Retro Andy on 13, May, 2009 - 06:10:00
It will be great to try it out and compare it too the standard C5, looking forward to the end result.

Retro Andy   
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: c515mph on 13, May, 2009 - 11:51:45
I am after a highbrid myself,so keep me in mind when it comes to selling it,hehehe.
(C5 Nutcase)
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: Retro Andy on 13, May, 2009 - 13:26:19
(C5 Nutcase) Ain't we all

Retro Andy
Title: Re: Quick(er) C5 question
Post by: minidaz on 13, May, 2009 - 14:16:15
Looking forward to seeing what you've got planned. Certainly sounds like a unique, and fun, C5  ;D