Topic: HEEEELP!!

[radiomarty]

Top spot guy's I missed that completely - I take it it's a matter of loosening the motor and repositioning flush to the fence.

[mike7201]

Umpa, thanks for the images.  I completely understand now.  I have removed the huge cog wheel, and can see that the fence has come slightly forward.  It flexes quite well luckily, and it easily bends back under the gearbox, yet simply pops out again though!  Would this mean that when the belt is attached, it pulls the gearbox downwards causing the noise I told you of??

If so, would the mod bracket 'hold the fence under the gearbox'?  Would having the fence under the gearbox with the modified bracket actually solve the problem?  I don't want to buy something I don't need, that's all.

Thanks.  I really appreciate your support.

[PLOD11]

YOU CAN GET THE SAME RESULT WITH A LARGE STRONG CABLE TIE.

[mike7201]

I just noticed there aren't any brackets on the shop at this time. 

How would I apply a cable tie then?  I can't see how I can hold the fence back so it sits under the gearbox.

[mike7201]

I've just put the wheel back on, and it's over-hanging the wheel arch.  It won't go in as far as it did before.  What's happened now?

Aaaargh!  Two wing mirrors knocked off, brake cable snapped, motor fence broken now this!! 

[Umpa]

Calm down !!

These are all easy fixes

1) you need to push the metal pipe (that the gear fits on) fully into the housing, you may need to waggle it a bit.

2) I explained the cable tie fix in the second post of this thread !!

3) All you need to do is refit the mirrors.

4) Fence is not broken - just a little bent, the cable tie fix will cure this.

[mike7201]

Sorry Umpa, I just find it all a little delicate sometimes! 

Push the metal pipe?

[Karl]

Sorry Umpa, I just find it all a little delicate sometimes! 

Push the metal pipe?

...check the piccies in this link ;
http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=342.0

...you'll see the "pipe" Umpa is referring to 

[Umpa]

That's the one - (holds head in embarrassment)  The very last picture in the tread shows the 'Pipe', the drive wheel's bearing clutch drives the C5 with this.  The pipe has splines on which it turns the axel.  If this is not fully pushed in to the mounting it will stick out a little to far.  When you tighten up the wheel nut, it should help push the pipe in, but we don’t want to strip the threads in the axel though do we ? - so its best if you push it in most of the way by hand.

You would only have about 3 mm of pipe sticking out of the drive cog when fitted.

Keep at it your nearly there, also dont forget to grease the drive bearing and wheel bearings !!!

[mike7201]

Should be sticking out about 3mm?  Are you kidding?  I'm lucky if I can get the pipe to go in far enough that it's less than a couple of inches showing.  I've now got black stuff all over my hands and now you're telling me I have to grease something...  Oh heck!   

Now I've got one part too many left over and I've re-assembled it!

Having looked at Karl's images, I can see that the pipe sticks out just like mine, so perhaps it's ok.  I can't figure out why the wheel won't go on all the way though...  Hmm...

Oh, and I can't see how applying cable ties makes a difference in making the fence fit better...  I'm not saying it won't work as clearly for some it does, I just can't see how it raises the motor.?

Thanks

[Durango2k]

The fence keeps the motor up. Once the motor pulls on the belt, it effectively gets a bit down. Now there's the fence, or lip, keeping it up where it is.

The pipe really goes back deep in when you wiggle a bit on the stub axle. It just slides an inch or so deeper.

Then it protrudes by 3 or 4 mm. This is to be packed with spacers, so that the large cog can rotate free- but has no axial play (I'd say 1/10 is enough).
If it can move: Get washers / spacers to fill up.

Which part is leftover ? Make a pic.

Best to take a pic, put it here, and we'll tell ya what to do. Think, I never had a C5 2 weeks ago, I had a blown CB and a rattling noise from a snapping belt- I learned it in a few sessions and now all is fine. There is success - it's just there, behind that fence :-)

Carsten

[mike7201]

Thanks Carsten!  I'll bare with it, and keep trying.

[mike7201]

I think it would still help to know how the cable ties help, and how/where to attach them.

[Durango2k]

See the last picture on page TWO (2) of this thread.
Now, there's this metal bar in front of the fence.

What you want to achieve is that the fence is kept back under the motor/Gearbox.

So just sling it around the fence, fiddle it through behind / below the motor, so that if you tighthen it, it'll pull the fence back where it should be.

You might also buy / built the metal bar part, but I guess it's not worth bothering.

You write you're a light techie. Me too, a bit- not DALI- but mainly EIB/KNX 1-10V Systems. I plan large scale systems for larger buildings, including solar protection / presence detection etc to save energy, using EIB a lot.

[Umpa]

Mike,

Here are some picures of mine I took this morning while I serviced my gearbox.

This one shows how a cable tie works



Side view



How it fastens (I have to use two as they wer not long enough)



Another Side View



All finished - take a look at how much pipe I have sticking out



By now and after re-reading the entire topic from the beginning you should be able to do this.

Good luck...